Controversial sports analyst Jason Whitlock recently sat down for an exclusive interview with Donald Trump at the White House for the newly launched platform OutKick.com.

During the sit-down, Whitlock and Trump touched on various topics, including Joe Biden, football, and how his relationship with Black entertainers changed after he became president. Trump stated that he was mentioned in a positive light in various rap songs over the years, and he also pointed to being one of Oprah’s final five guests during the last week of her famed talk show in 2011. He then explained how things started to change, stating, “Then when I ran for politics, there was like a wall. Nobody has done for the Black community what I have done. Prison reform, criminal justice reform.”