The debate over the various top rappers lists has been taking over hip-hop for the past couple of months, and T.I. weighed in on the situation during his ExpediTIously podcast.

During the conversation, the group decided to focus purely on impact rather than record sales or accomplishments for their own list.When it came to Nicki Minaj and Lil Kim, Tip explained why the couldn’t both be on the list, stating that “they are a direct reflection of one another.” He added, “[Nicki] is one of the biggest-selling artists of all time and I salute that. Impact, impact, impact.”