Fabolous recently joined T.I.’s expediTIously podcast as a guest. Throughout the episode, the two rap superstars shared stories of fatherhood, family life and maintaining longevity. Tip and Fabolous cover a wide range of topics detailing Fab’s career and evolution in hip hop.

About 1:01:30 into the discussion, the both of them addressed having serious relationships while working in the industry. Though hip hop fans are more accustomed to seeing rap stars with their significant others, the two admit that that wasn’t always the case. Fabolous also used DMX and Ja Rule as examples of rappers who had long-term relationships that people didn’t know about because “that wasn’t the thing then.” Fab followed that statement by saying he felt that rappers having to hide their relationships was wrong because it didn’t set the best example.