Eminem recently sat down with Apple Music host Zane Lowe, where he spoke about his impressive cassette tape collection that was in view during the interview.

Em also spoke about the lists of the best rappers that continue to spark conversation online, and he explained that he doesn’t really get into the lists. He went on to state around the 7:14 mark, “I rap to be the best rapper, but I’m not the only rapper who raps to be the best rapper.” Eminem added, “Wayne, Cole, Kendrick, Joyner Lucas. They rap to be the best rapper and I feel like when you push yourself like that, that’s what I feel like inspires greatness. But the list, man, sometimes you almost have to go by era.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Eminem also addressed MC Serch saying that he doubts he influenced Eminem.