The 85 South Show has become one of the hottest Q&A platforms in the game but lately, the show has gained a lot more notoriety for what its celebrity guests do in between takes.

In an upcoming episode, co-host DC Young Fly was seen getting into a heated verbal exchange with the founder of Helping Young People Excel (HYPE), Charleston White. The basis of the argument between DC Young Fly and Charleston White appeared to be centered around social justice, cops killing black men on camera, grassroots efforts, and their individual voting practices. But when Charleston White began to accuse his debate partner of simply being a bystander to social change rather than an active participant, that’s when a shouting match ensued.