Pusha T and his brother Malice recently appeared on The New York Times’ Popcast podcast, where the Clipse duo dove into a wide-ranging conversation about their return to music — and didn’t shy away from addressing past tensions, including Pusha’s fallout with Kanye West and his ongoing feuds with Drake and Travis Scott.

During the interview, Pusha was asked about his decision to part ways with Ye and the now-fractured relationship with GOOD Music. He was also asked whether he ever regretted not speaking up more forcefully during their time working together. While he acknowledged the undeniable impact of their musical collaborations, Pusha made it clear that beyond the studio, their relationship was strained. Pusha’s comments mark one of his most candid assessments yet of the complicated dynamic with Ye, underscoring that creative chemistry doesn’t always translate to personal alignment.