Jeff Bezos sat down for a lengthy talk during The Economic Club of Washington.

During the interview, Bezos touched on some of the more pressing issues surrounding his company’s performance and expansion, not to mention concerns with work conditions and providing workers a living wage.

But the conversation wasn’t entirely serious. Bezos was asked how does he feel about having the title of “The Richest Man in the World,” to which he said it wasn’t something he pursued. “I have never sought that title. It was fine being the second-wealthiest person in the world,” Bezos said before adding that he still uses credit cards and carries around cash.